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thedeadlyhook ([personal profile] thedeadlyhook) wrote2008-07-20 12:04 am

Animated Hellboy - Damn, That Was Good Stuff!

Huh, that was interesting. Toys and I were just watching the two Hellboy Animated movies on Cartoon Network (there was a marathon tonight) and they were both infinitely superior to the Hellboy 2 movie that I recently bitched about. As in, they were actually like the comics, right down to some of the most memorable imagery and the loveable Office-esque character interactions. There's also more than one female character, and they actually talk about, y'know, work. Such as actual supernatural research, as in the name of the organization, the Bureau of Paranormal Research and Defense.

And real supernatural mythology, too - the film set in Japan featured real Japanese yokai, folklorish monsters, instead of the usual made-up stuff that Hollywood trots out.

Although... I'm damned if I can figure out why the animation was so good and the live-action film so lame. Largely the same creative staff all around, right down to the voice work. Maybe Mike Mignola is just a really laid-back guy who lets people do whatever with his property, and the animation guy just happens to be a bigger fan? Who knows.

But for those interested in why the Hellboy issue irks me so much - here's the driving philosophy behind Hellboy that I respond to.

It's a nature versus nurture story. Hellboy's origin is that he's the son of a major demon, summoned to this plane by Nazi scientists to help Hitler conquer the world. Additionally, he's the central feature of a prophecy about the Apocalypse, namely that he'll bring it about with his stone "right hand of fate."

But none of this matters to Hellboy because he was raised by a nice kindly old man who fed him pancakes and gave him a happy childhood.

Hellboy loves this world. That's why he fights. It's worth more to him than being a big cheese in hell.

That's worth something to me, message-wise. I'm tired of nihilistic, "oh, the word sucks" messages, especially for heroes. I want to hear what they're fighting for.

Boom-deyadda.

Oh, and damn, ABC Family (we're checking out Tim Burton's original Batman movie, which I haven't seen in years, for nostalgia value - shut up) just played a trailer for some new series called Samurai Girl, and now I'm dying to see it. All on the strength of one gag where some white girl (college roommate?) finds the Japanese heroine hiding in her closet for some reason, and reacts with "I thought you were that dead girl from The Grudge!" Bwah. Plus there's posing with weapons and beach-exercise-fu ala Karate Kid. I can't resist.

At this time next week, I'll be at San Diego Comic-Con. I haven't been in about three years, and I've been warned that "it's gotten more corporate." More than it was? Like, as in the year they drove a full-size Batmobile onto the dealer floor? My mind boggles.

I sorta can't wait. The bargain bins, they wait for my searching fingers. I have back issues that need finding, particularly anything featuring Hannibal King.

[identity profile] kitmarlowescot2.livejournal.com 2008-07-20 02:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Speaking of youkai, I had started reading a series called Rosario + Vampire. It involves a youkai high school, in which the main male characters end up their by accident. It is probably not the best manga out their, and it is typical supernatural, high school, harem story. Though a few of the characters caught my interest, and I have enjoyed the story. My favorite character is a snow woman called Mizore. I also like the main male character Tsukune, he is in love with a vampire girl with a split personality.
He had been taking her blood to save her and the other girls. It got the point where he was turned into a ghoul. It's not everyday that a guy will go that far to protect those he loves.
I also like the youngest character who is a witch, she is 11 years old. And wants to have a threesome with Tsukune and Moka the vampire. Something about that just hits my funny bone, the story will also self parody when dealing with manga. So I have enjoyed it, I have no idea if it is a good series or not.
The anime of it isn't so great either, I prefer the manga. But it is light hearted, and it has Mizore.

[identity profile] wenchsenior.livejournal.com 2008-07-20 02:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Didn't have time to comment on your "Hellboy" review, but you described and explained the immense irritation I felt watching that movie. I really enjoyed the first movie, so it was an unpleasant let-down.

It was a very cool world, but that was about it. Dialogue was mostly flat, editing and pacing were for crap, and they seemed to be trying to explore ambiguous themes about loyalty but did such a poor job that it all came out a muddle. And I lost count of the obvious rip-offs by the "Princess Mononoke" sequence...I think I was already into double-digits, and by the end of the film I was sure there hadn't been original idea presented.

Now I'm very concerned about del Toro directing "The Hobbit." I just read a quote by him in EW that "all movies should be designed like animation, where style is the substance." Perhaps he truly is referring just to the design element and not the actual story or themes of a film, but that quote makes me really twitchy.

How is it getting getting good reviews? Weird.

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[personal profile] herself_nyc 2008-07-20 03:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Huh, that does sound interesting.
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[personal profile] yourlibrarian 2008-07-20 04:08 pm (UTC)(link)
When you said "corporate" I had to laugh because I've only been to ComicCon once, 5 years ago, and that was pretty obvious. I would have gone with "crowded." There's plenty to see and do, assuming you can get from place to place in time and the presentations aren't already shutting people out.

There's a lot going on this year though, so it should be fun.

[identity profile] monkey-junkey.livejournal.com 2008-07-20 04:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Well Hollywood studios have certainly latched onto the fact that SDCC is more or less a free buzz generator. I don't have much comparison to the past though as I only discovered 3 years ago that I was in fact an adult with my own credit cards and keys so didn't make the trek 'til then :)

[identity profile] jwaneeta.livejournal.com 2008-07-20 05:03 pm (UTC)(link)
SD Con is just much, much bigger, and a large part of it is about promoting movies now -- most of them comic movies or fantasy or something under that broad umbrella. For the most part, I think that's cool. The booths for the heavy comics hitters (DC, Image, etc.) aren't booths at all anymore - they're environments four aisles square, towering constructions with lighting effects and stuff.

Because of the press of humanity, it takes a hell of a long time to navigate the exhibition hall. Actual comics sellers (muhahaha! *rubs hands*) are usually located at each end and around the sides, along with the T shirt sellers and the people who peddle painted unicorns and scrying balls and such. The only place where the choking throng thins up is Artist's Alley, which is so sad. :(

More than it was? Like, as in the year they drove a full-size Batmobile onto the dealer floor? My mind boggles.

Oh, yes. Much more of that kind of thing -- bigger! Wilder! Crazier! It's pretty fun, in its way, in terms of crass spectacle. :)

If only it weren't so crowded. There are lots of cool panels and sneak previews, but the lines are so long you either have to camp out for a big event and miss a bunch of other stuff, or wait at the end of a huge snaking line and maybe have the room fill before you get in.

(Props to the Buffy singalong people last year -- when they realized they had one third the space they needed for the crowd, they cajoled two more rooms, somehow found two more projectors, and managed to drive on.)

I'm hoping to see some Watchmen... something, but I can just imagine hgow mobbed that will be.

Oh, yeah, bring food -- granola bars or whatever. Keep them on your person. Really. ;)

[identity profile] asta77.livejournal.com 2008-07-20 09:20 pm (UTC)(link)
You're going to Comic Con? Can I ask you a favor? If and only if it doesn't disrupt your plans or take you out of your way. Jamie Bamber has a direct to DVD horror flick coming out, Pulse 2: Afterlife. Genius Products (the distributor) and The Weinstein Company (the production company - technically, Dimension Extreme is the production company) have a booth. Jamie is suppose to be there on Saturday from 11:00am until 1:00pm. No, I am not going to ask you to line up for me since I already have autographs from him, but if you happen to be by the booth anytime during the weekend (Booth #3945 - across from the SciFi booth) and they have some Pulse freebies, could you grab me some? I'll pay you back for shipping or whatever. Or maybe there won't be stuff. I have no clue. I was just able to zero in on when Jamie would be there.

Also, if there is any BSG merchandise you see I might like. ;)

[identity profile] toysdream.livejournal.com 2008-07-20 10:05 pm (UTC)(link)
And real supernatural mythology, too - the film set in Japan featured real Japanese yokai, folklorish monsters, instead of the usual made-up stuff that Hollywood trots out.

It still cracks me up that, no sooner had you wondered whether we'd get that one-eyed umbrella monster, than the animators promptly delivered. My personal favorite would probably be the Kappa that shriveled up like a Fiji Mermaid after Hellboy dangled it upside-down and drained all the water out of its head. :-)