it just seemed like a bad experience for both sides, the writers and the fans.
Which was my main complaint - unless you have some point to make... well, what's the point, if none of us are even enjoying ourselves here?
And why was it OK for her to treat Spike like a punching bag because he didn't have a soul?
Yes, the "willing slave" line seemed a lot less funny in that context. The racism parallel got pretty hard to ignore.
It didn't seem ambiguous at all....more like they had a relationship of ex-lovers and THEN you would get these comments thrown in that reminded you the audience of the RAPE (poke, poke) (which were also tossed off in such a joking manner they were impossible to take seriously).
Yep. Not even gonna get started on that one myself. You basically had two readings for that relationship: a) Buffy never felt anything for Spike and just used him like a toy, which had the effect of making her into an amoral bitch or b) she actually did care about him, in which she was a closeted little coward and severely fucked up. And sorry, but neither one of these readings feeds my "girl power" jones.
I know it would be a Big Thing, but do you have any interest about writing a piece re Buffy now that all seven seasons are over? A general wrapup? I'd love to hear your thoughts on it all, is why I'm asking....
Yes, I do plan to do that - I've been working on various versions of exactly that for months, and once I get my website overhaul up and live, hopefully I'll at least have my S7 wrapup ready to go. All this LJ talk has certainly helped me firm up a lot of my thoughts, so it's not looking as daunting a topic as it used to be... especially now that Angel will be ending too, I feel the need for some overall analysis. I'll keep you posted.
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Date: 2004-03-24 09:31 pm (UTC)Which was my main complaint - unless you have some point to make... well, what's the point, if none of us are even enjoying ourselves here?
And why was it OK for her to treat Spike like a punching bag because he didn't have a soul?
Yes, the "willing slave" line seemed a lot less funny in that context. The racism parallel got pretty hard to ignore.
It didn't seem ambiguous at all....more like they had a relationship of ex-lovers and THEN you would get these comments thrown in that reminded you the audience of the RAPE (poke, poke) (which were also tossed off in such a joking manner they were impossible to take seriously).
Yep. Not even gonna get started on that one myself. You basically had two readings for that relationship: a) Buffy never felt anything for Spike and just used him like a toy, which had the effect of making her into an amoral bitch or b) she actually did care about him, in which she was a closeted little coward and severely fucked up. And sorry, but neither one of these readings feeds my "girl power" jones.
I know it would be a Big Thing, but do you have any interest about writing a piece re Buffy now that all seven seasons are over? A general wrapup? I'd love to hear your thoughts on it all, is why I'm asking....
Yes, I do plan to do that - I've been working on various versions of exactly that for months, and once I get my website overhaul up and live, hopefully I'll at least have my S7 wrapup ready to go. All this LJ talk has certainly helped me firm up a lot of my thoughts, so it's not looking as daunting a topic as it used to be... especially now that Angel will be ending too, I feel the need for some overall analysis. I'll keep you posted.